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Dan Fromm
Joined: 14 May 2001 Posts: 2144 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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I've found a possible use for a 2x3 film pack adapter if it will attach to a Graflok back. Don't know if FPAs do or don't.
Any advice welcome, and no, I don't intend to put film in one.
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t.r.sanford
Joined: 10 Nov 2003 Posts: 812 Location: East Coast (Long Island)
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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"Graphic" FPAs certainly work with "Graflok" backs. I used 4x5 and 2¼x3¼ filmpack with a "Speed" and a "Century" in the late '60s and early '70s, when it was still a live option.
I've thought that an FPA might serve as the basis for a groundglass panel -- and, to be sure, the "Graphic" base and darkslide would be a convenient starting-point for any kind of film adapter you might want to construct. |
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Dan Fromm
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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On 2004-09-10 12:50, t.r.sanford wrote:
"Graphic" FPAs certainly work with "Graflok" backs. I used 4x5 and 2¼x3¼ filmpack with a "Speed" and a "Century" in the late '60s and early '70s, when it was still a live option.
I've thought that an FPA might serve as the basis for a groundglass panel -- and, to be sure, the "Graphic" base and darkslide would be a convenient starting-point for any kind of film adapter you might want to construct.
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glennfromwy
Joined: 29 Nov 2001 Posts: 903 Location: S.W. Wyoming
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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I have one and every time I come across it, I think - geez, there MUST be a use for these things. So far, I haven't found that use.
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Dan Fromm
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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On 2004-09-10 14:44, glennfromwy wrote:
I have one and every time I come across it, I think - geez, there MUST be a use for these things. So far, I haven't found that use.
| Well, Glenn, what I have in mind is to couple two 2x3s into a tandem camera that will be able to use a 14" lens. As I calculate it, the least expensive way of keeping the dark in between front and rear camera is something that attaches to a Graflok + a tube with a board on it. Whence the question.
If it comes to that, I suppose I can sacrifice my 2x3 Graflok that didn't get a nibble on eBay with a $20 opening. But it would be better to sacrifice an FPA because those seem even less useful.
Cheers,
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glennfromwy
Joined: 29 Nov 2001 Posts: 903 Location: S.W. Wyoming
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:27 am Post subject: |
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That sounds like it will work. It gives me an idea to play with, too. A pack adapter would be just the thing to make an extension back for extreme close ups, when you can't quite get enough bellows extension. Easier than making extended lens boards. I can't fathom a 20 dollar opener not getting any bites for a Graflok! They are so highly sought after.
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FixerFiend
Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 42 Location: Washington D.C.
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Dan, Check your P.M. |
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Dan Fromm
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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On 2004-09-11 04:50, FixerFiend wrote:
Dan, Check your P.M.
| Thanks for the hint, check yours.
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FixerFiend
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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I can't fathom a 20 dollar opener not getting any bites for a Graflok. He meant a grafmatic.2x3 grafmatics go for cheap these days?
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Dan Fromm
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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On 2004-09-10 14:57, Dan Fromm wrote:
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On 2004-09-10 14:44, glennfromwy wrote:
I have one and every time I come across it, I think - geez, there MUST be a use for these things. So far, I haven't found that use.
| Well, Glenn, what I have in mind is to couple two 2x3s into a tandem camera that will be able to use a 14" lens. As I calculate it, the least expensive way of keeping the dark in between front and rear camera is something that attaches to a Graflok + a tube with a board on it. Whence the question.
If it comes to that, I suppose I can sacrifice my 2x3 Graflok that didn't get a nibble on eBay with a $20 opening. But it would be better to sacrifice an FPA because those seem even less useful.
Cheers,
Dan
| My error. That was a Grafmatic that got no nibbles. Mea culpa.
Sorry,
Dan |
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djadams
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3 Location: pittsburgh
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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May I jump in here? I am a new owner of a Speed Graphic 2x3 with a Graphic/spring back. From this site, I've learned that it is the least desirable of all the models (if I've understood correctly). Now, I am new to this site and new to this type of camera--I have a Nikon FM2 and a couple of Kodak Box cameras. I got this camera at a flea market and would like to try to use it. It came with an assortment of backs, including Graphic Film Holders, Type 5; Graphic Film Pack Adapters; and Grafmatic Film Holders. Will any of these work with available film? Or, have I read the site's info correctly and only a Graflok back will work. Again, I'm a real newbie, so I apologize if this is self apparent to you or I'm asking in the wrong place. However, any constructive suggestions will be most welcome. Thanks. |
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Dan Fromm
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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On 2005-01-16 13:30, djadams wrote:
May I jump in here? I am a new owner of a Speed Graphic 2x3 with a Graphic/spring back. From this site, I've learned that it is the least desirable of all the models (if I've understood correctly). Now, I am new to this site and new to this type of camera--I have a Nikon FM2 and a couple of Kodak Box cameras. I got this camera at a flea market and would like to try to use it. It came with an assortment of backs, including Graphic Film Holders, Type 5; Graphic Film Pack Adapters; and Grafmatic Film Holders. Will any of these work with available film? Or, have I read the site's info correctly and only a Graflok back will work. Again, I'm a real newbie, so I apologize if this is self apparent to you or I'm asking in the wrong place. However, any constructive suggestions will be most welcome. Thanks.
| If you can get an emulsion you want to use in 2x3 sheet film -- choices are limited -- you can load it in a film holder or a Grafmatic. The film pack adapters take (surprise!) film in film packs, and these haven't been made for decades.
You can also use 120 film with your camera in an Adapt-A-Roll 620 roll holder. Search on this site for info about 'em.
Good luck,
Dan |
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djadams
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3 Location: pittsburgh
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Thank Dan. I'll scout around the site, as you suggested.
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glennfromwy
Joined: 29 Nov 2001 Posts: 903 Location: S.W. Wyoming
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Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Black and white film is available in a couple of choices from J&C. Also, check out Freestyle Sales. Ilford makes 2x3 sheet film in the HP-5+, but may be scarce right now. Try B&H or Adorama for it. Color print and transparency film is limited to roll film or cutting your own sheets. The Graflok back is a nice feature to have on a 2X3 camera but it's by no means necessary. Have fun with it!
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djadams
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Apologies for the delay in acknowledging your posting; I've been away for a few days. Thanks for the details and suggestions. I'm quite keen to get this thing working.
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